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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I bet stealing a Major's wig was a tricky one in Selby at this time of year?


FINDING a major in Selby might prove difficult at any time Melch...


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No that was aimed at the major one
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extract from Admiralty Records held in the Public Records Office

Section ADM 178/174


Extract from Board Minutes.

Monday, 6th July, 1931.

Caning in the Royal Navy.

2835. The First Lord informed the Board that he viewed with considerable concern the amount of caning of boys that took place in the Navy, and that it appeared from a paper which had been prepared, that the extent to which this punishment was resorted to varied very considerably between ship and ship and between the two Training Establishments. He therefore wished the Board to consider the whole question, and for this purpose a memorandum would be circulated prior to a fuller discussion by the Board.

Caning of Boys in the Navy: Note by Naval Law Branch, 10th July, 1931
The rules at present governing caning as a summary punishment in the Royal Navy are as follows:- (Art. 585, Clause 2, K.R. & A.I.)

"585.

2. CANING on the breech with clothes on is limited to boys rated as such and to Boy Buglers and Band Boys when embarked and is to be inflicted with a light and ordinary cane. The number of cuts or blows is not to exceed 12, and the punishment is not to be carried out in public. Caning is intended for the serious offences of theft, immorality, drunkenness, desertion (in special cases as an act of leniency), insubordination and deliberate or continued disobedience of orders. In the absence of the Captain, the Commanding Officer is not to order caning to be inflicted, unless the Captain shall be absent from duty by permission of superior authority for more than 48 hours."

In the boys training establishments, there is a further limitation that not less than 6 cuts must be awarded, the object being to emphasise the fact that the award of caning as a punishment is restricted to the more serious offences.

So, when did the ‘hang ‘em up in a mattress cover and……….etc' come in to force?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pusser,
I don't know if you were ever Duty SNCO in Deal but there was a variation of that punishment used by many of the SNCOs:
"Pick up your matress and three laps of the main parade with it above your head, NOW!!"

Perhaps not as harsh as caning but a damn sight more preferable to us!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what do you have to have done wrong to get VBI??

Must be pretty bad!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While i was at ganges.the lesser 3 strokes of the can as doled out quite often .There was also the lesser lesser punishments of up and down laundry hill the dreaded shotley routine round the parade ground in oilskins no matter what the weather up and over the devils elbow in quick time holding the dustbin out in front of you .and of course the favorite lovely FAITH HOPE CHARITY .The lesser except the dustbin usualy collective punishments
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Donkey, you just have to be a "B" stream Stripey underachiever....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to be fair, I don't think the punishment fits the crime
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

General Melchett wrote:
And to be fair, I don't think the punishment fits the crime


Couldn't agree more Melch..far too lenient. .... :.I mean it wouldn't be so bad if you guys actually had any Band Members..
And here's me thinking VBI stood for very busy individual..
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.........!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

General Melchett wrote:
I think Donkey, you just have to be a "B" stream Stripey underachiever....

I myself was an "A" stream under-achiever, but never got to a VBI.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, how many lashes do you get for spelling mistakes?

I mean, who calls a thread Naval PUISHMENT ?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three for a small one twelve for a whopper
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Mister - can I have a whopper please?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFoglamp wrote:
So, how many lashes do you get for spelling mistakes?

I mean, who calls a thread Naval PUISHMENT ?

I reckon that is worth six lashes then biglesbryan.
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